Just saw Dark Knight

[Westcroft]

Wow I miss Heath more than ever, my thoughts of him topping Jack's Joker from the original Batman movie was proven right. His performance was truly amazing... unfortunately I can't say the same for the movie as a whole. Was it bad? Of course not, it began with a bang but lingered for a bit... by the time it got going the movie felt rushed.


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The joker didn't have enough screen time (it left me begging for more), Batman felt like a secondary character in this one and Harvey Dent's transformation felt a little rough and we never really got a chance to see it...

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I highly recommend the movie, tell me what you think!

[HailtotheKingBaby]

I really enjoyed it.

And yes, Ledger was amazing and it's incredibly sad that he had to die after giving such a promising performance.



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Do you think Two-Face died? Personally, I think Nolan purposefully left it ambiguous. I've heard that he's not happy with WB and that this may influence whether or not he does another movie. However, if he does I think he wants to know he can still use Harvey Two-Face if he feels the need to. If he had killed him for sure, even if he comes up with an interesting story for him in three, he can't use him. Leaving his death/survival open allows him to do whatever. It also allows him to say,"Two-Face is dead." if he quits and doesn't want anyone screwing around with the Dent character arc.

I'm sort of fine with him remaining dead myself. Given how they set him up, they concluded is arc with some satisfaction. However, I feel like they can take him further. He was angry about the way things worked in Gotham and he sort served to counter Batman's no kill vigilante style. Two-Face took vigilante to the extreme. And now that Batman has had murders pinned to him, I think they could continue that in three. Two-Face killing people, with the murders still being pinned to Baman. We'll see I guess.



I may be looking into it too deeply though. 

[MadAshPlissken]

Two-Face didn't die man. great film, best Bat flick yet.

[Joda]

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It could be left as him dead, but highly doubtful. There is just so much more that can be done with him. I am more into thinking who will be the next villain... I am really hoping for Poison Ivy or a more realistic Mr.Freeze.

[HailtotheKingBaby]

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Someone over at SHH! claims this is a page from the official shooting script:



If this is true, unless they changed it, I think it confirms that Dent was killed. 

[Westcroft]

Well Gordon is giving a eulogy isn't he?

[HailtotheKingBaby]

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Yeah, but still...who knows what Nolan will pull. After I thought that page from the shooting script sealed the deal, I come across this over at IGN:

"Likewise, the ending of TDK seemed to suggest that Harvey Dent/Two-Face was dead, although producer Emma Thomas told IGN after an early press screening that Dent's last scene was ambiguous enough to suggest that perhaps he was still alive."

http://movies.ign.com/articles/892/892656p1.html

I think I'll stick by my original theory concerning his fate. As far as "The Dark Knight" is concerned, Two-Face is dead. However, should Nolan direct a third film and wishes to to bring Two-Face back, he left his demise ambiguous enough to be able to so do without raising eyebrows too high. It's the only thing that really makes sense.

[Westcroft]

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I just wish they would've closed the book on the Joker, leaving him alive is temptation to have him come back in a later film... The Joker is one of Batman's most prominent villains, some argue he's the most... If The Joker died in the flick then there's no chance of them trying to recast Heath's character... also just the thought of the possibility of that makes me cringe...

[Names_Ash_Housewares]

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Well Nolan left the film as it was supposed to be before Heaths death, they didnt film a death scene for the joker so the film is true to Nolans original vision. 10 out of 10 movie by the way! Heath was amazing! as was Bale and everyone involved.

[Wyatt]

I saw it a few days ago and it was an amazing movie. I was a big fan of Jack's Joker and was gonna pick apart Heath's performance, but his first scene and "pencil trick" blew me away and had me realize that this was how the Joker was supposed to be. I was dissapointed that we didn't get more scenes of him, and that we lost a brilliant actor. After the flick, a couple of buds and I were talking about how they could possibly make a sequel. I feel that Nolan's view of villains is that he picks the ones that are acheiveable by anyone and not overly scifi. So that leaves the door open for the Riddler, but he's not bad enough. Someone brought up the idea of having Bane fight Batman, and Batman becoming addicted to the drug Venom which I thought might be good.

[Westcroft]

yeah Nolan's desire for realism in these movies is the best part IMO, nothing is over the top and it makes the movie grittier and darker. When you look at the Joker, it's not some lame story about how it's a guy who falls into a giant vat of secret chemicals that makes his skin white, his hair green and his face always smile... it's a guy who is just f*cking insane and dresses as a clown... it makes it scarier because that could happen... I'm sure it does happen... in fact... it did happen John Wayne Gacy anyone?

[Names_Ash_Housewares]

Even the Joker wasnt as screwed up as Gacy!