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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2007, 04:23:13 PM »

Well Michael didn't really run that much. Besides, doesn't hurt to have something actually move faster than a crawl to scare people.
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2007, 08:13:02 AM »

It does when Michael Meyers is the one running. Because he's not supposed to. Ever.
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2007, 10:27:56 AM »

In all seriousness I think the Halloween franchise needs to end now, In my opinion they should have left it with the first one, that movie is a true horror classic and I dont see were they can take this series now, its gone the same way as the Hellraiser and Friday the 13th movies.

From what I gather the theatrical version of the remake doesnt leave it open for a sequel either, which is good as we dont need to see Michael roaming around Haddonfield Memorial Hospital again!
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2007, 10:36:56 AM »

A lot of people love sequels (yes, obviously including me) and sequels make money.  It isn't about the movies anymore its about the money.  Look at Bond, how many damn sequels?  I would bet my life that Michael is not over. I bet within 5 years (at most) he will be back.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2007, 10:40:01 AM »

Dont get me wrong I love sequels which have a good story and are not just flogging a dead horse, H20 in all fairness could have been decent closure (with Michael actually being killed and bringing closure to Lauries story) but the cash cow kept calling and the diabolical Ressurection was made and well we know the rest!
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2007, 02:50:49 PM »

I think that Resurrection was was pretty good (I enjoy entertaining movies, doesn't need to be Oscar material).  I really enjoy the whole storyline around the Myers familyline. Keep them coming, if you dont want them, ignore them hehe.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2007, 08:07:31 AM »

I think that Resurrection was was pretty good (I enjoy entertaining movies, doesn't need to be Oscar material).  I really enjoy the whole storyline around the Myers familyline. Keep them coming, if you don't want them, ignore them hehe.

I prefer Halloween Resurrection to Rob Zombie's complete mess of the film. Yes I watched the film illegally but this is because I don't believe in paying for remakes and it hasn't come to the UK yet. The picture quality wasn't that bad, so I can make valid judgments of the movie. I believe I saw the work print version (the better version):

This is what I think of Rob Zombie's Halloween:

The opening scene had acting worse then direct to DVD films, and the dialog seemed as if it was written by a child- the worst sort of exposition I've seen in a movie. However, the first half of the movie worked better then the second part of the movie, and I was surprised at this. However there were still many things wrong with the first half. The music decisions were completely wrong, I mean why did he put the Halloween theme when Michael is running out of the school and his mom in the school office? also the Love Hurts song during his mothers pole dancing scene? what the hell was that about? Not only this but if this film was going for the shock element, it didn't work for me at all because it seemed as if it was pointing at itself like saying "look how shock this is - Michael has photos of dead animals" and all the swear words from 12 year old kids that were from the 70s was out of place- kids were not like that then and the original Halloween is proof of this. Not even teens in the 70s swore that much.

The second part of the movie is probably the worst bunch of scenes in movie history. The scene transitions were awful, there were jump cuts, there was absolutely NO TENSION and no suspense so how are we meant to be scared of Michael when he does something? The teenage girls acted so bitchy there was no way that the audience could like them to invest in their terror. -You wanted them to die, even Laurie. Malcolm McDowell's acting was awful only because he had to work with such a terrible script. And the Michael Myers character was not scary because they had explained everything that happened to him, there was not even a bit of mystery, so why would we be scared of something we are familiar with? Not only this but this film didn't even work as a slasher movie at all, it was more of an exploitation movie. Now sticking Michael Myers into an exploitation movie was a bad idea because it dramatically changed his character. You don't mess with a character  that works. It's like Rob Zombie is wanting us to accept that Dracula drinks urine instead of blood and was a poor guy that grows hair on a full moon.

In comparing character evolution to the Friday the 13th franchise, there was even more similarity between the Sack head Jason in part 2 and Uber Jason in Jason X because he had the same motive and style of killing. Furthermore I even think Jason X was better then Rob Zombie's Halloween (even though Jason X is terrible). At least it's a slasher movie. Rob Zombie has proven that he can never make a movie other then rude exploitation trash. He bashes the slasher genre so badly which is no surprise, but guess what Rob, even the lowest slasher movies are better then your lame excuse for a Halloween film. I regard this film as one of the worst additions to a franchise I have ever seen. It makes sh*t like Texas Chainsaw Massacre the Beginning look as good as The Evil Dead.

I rate this movie 1/10 and this is generous, the 1 is only for the scenes that were near the beginning.

The 'Last House on Haddonfield' experiment went terribly wrong.

I apologize if I offended anyone with my opinion....

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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2007, 04:30:41 AM »

Hmmm, nice to see you feel that Halloween 2007 was the worst movie ever made... Especially when there are such abominations as Halloween 3.
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2007, 10:46:49 AM »

Well I don't think Halloween 3 had even half the amount of problems that Rob Zombie's film had. The reason why Halloween 3 didn't have Michael Myers in it was because I heard that the filmmakers meant it to be a stand alone film (a new story they'd do every year like tales from the crypt) however when it came to advertising somebody forced them to put the number 3 on the title so that it would make more money linked to the successful Myers story. Having said that it would have been better if it was just called the Season of the Witch. So as a stand alone film it is pretty good and I thought better then Rob Zombie's lame attempt at making a scary good film.

Halloween 3 is actually quite an ORIGINAL fun film. I rate it 6.5/10

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2007, 03:11:49 AM »

It IS all about money. I remember at one point 2 years ago where there were 11 (i counted em!) sequels playing at once.

It is like flogging a dead horse. in fact, give it time and michael will be doing that literally.

Coming soon: Halloween 52: Return of the Revenge of the Return of Michael Myers Revenge, pt 6.
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2007, 04:14:46 AM »

Donald Pleasence and Moustapha Akkad both wanted to keep the series going.  If there is any movie franchise that I think deserves more sequels, its the Halloween series.  Sure they will never be as great as the original, no way anything could touch it. But that doesn't mean sequel fanatics like me cant get our fix every 4-6 years.

Saying sequels shouldn't happen is like saying tv shows shouldnt have but one season each. There is always room for expansion.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2007, 08:40:37 AM »

I saw the movie the other night, and I was disapointed. It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't that good either.
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2007, 10:50:31 AM »

Rob zombie has sort of removed whatr made micheal so scary...his lack of reason, i mean he made him a psychopath which just gave him a reason and made him less scary
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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2007, 04:09:21 PM »

When it comes down to it, the less we know about a villain, the more scary they become. Too much information and we feel like we could have a barbeque with the guy and oh michael be sure to bring the kids around too.

The sequels provide us with said information overdose.
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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2007, 05:27:26 PM »

While mystery can make or break the creepiness, I really enjoy backstory to characters.
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